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Whitmore
08-07-2008, 05:28 AM
So I'm a bit late to the party, but I just sat through the entire series A History of Britain, borrowed from my local library. Regardless of my opinion of the series, the major impression this Yank got is that Britain has vastly more history and experience than we do here in the New World. It was a humbling experience, to be sure.

Narrator Simon Schama kept his own manner of continuity, but I always felt emotionally wrung-out after each viewing of the 15 episodes. So often it seemed his main objective was to disabuse us of any sense of romanticism we might have had about past Britain.

Even if modern historian Schama wanted to dictate how our affinities for Britain should tamed and leashed, the soundtrack constantly threw these efforts into chaos. John Harle's music, an eclectic mix of old and new, undermined to the point of making me think Schama secretly didn't want us to see things ever so harshly. I immediately got the soundtrack and it was love at first hearing. As someone said, Harle's version of "The Three Ravens" is worth the CD. If I was forced to offer just one song to attention-deficit aliens who only understood music, I'd give them Harle's "The Three Ravens" as the summation of Britain.

Lillie
09-07-2008, 11:13 PM
You know...
They keep sticking that on the TV.
I never watch it.

Who is Sharma anyway?
Some pompous guy who is always telling other people what to think.

If I had to sum up Britain in a single song I think I would pick the Sex Pistols God Save the Queen.
But that's just me being nostalgic for an England that is long lost in time.

Whitmore
12-07-2008, 12:08 AM
Yeah, I'm not one of his fans either, Professor Schama. I think he's like a lot of mod historians who, like doctors and psychologists, like to pop our layman balloons. And this business of summing up Britain with a single song is crazy, but "The Three Ravens" done by John Harle was the last bit of the series where they threw past episode images was quite moving...

I'd like to discuss (in another thread) why the UK is such a concept still here in the USA....

Lillie
12-07-2008, 12:50 AM
Is it?

wierd!

Bracton
13-08-2008, 03:00 AM
I like Simon Schama very much. He is passionate about history, very eloquent and phenomenally clever. He is very much a public intellectual and I think he does us a service in sharing his scholarship in an accessible way.

Lillie
13-08-2008, 08:07 PM
:D

That told me, didn't it!!!

Bracton
14-08-2008, 03:27 AM
It certainly wasn’t directed at you! I just thought I’d get my two penneth in! If you’re interested, there’s a rough account of Schama’s career, publications and interests on Wikipedia. I very much think history is one of those things that is so complicated that it’s difficult to understand and that that’s such a shame because it is so rich and interesting.


He does come across pompous, and I think Alastair McGowan sends him up well for it! There’s one where Schama and David Starkey end up walking across the same patch of grass on the same day and prepare for battle, only to be swept away by Tony Robinson’s Time Team. I’ve looked for youtube clips for you, but alas, I couldn’t find any of these. The best I could find was his tour of Downing Street: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYRM4tYm-Ik

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Schama

Lillie
14-08-2008, 08:06 PM
I like history, on the whole.

I like Time Team too.
But I never see them doing plans and sections.
I did hours in the rain doing plans and sections.
Different colours of dirt and different shapes of stones....
Exciting stuff!!! :)